secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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taronsargsyan
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secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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Hi guys

new member here. We finally made it working on n54/6hp28x. Ryan spend lot of time to make it drivable =, some small things still needs to be fixed but overall we can drive it now.

question I have is the following. If i want to have the secondary running x% of fueling but want to maximize the DI usage what could I do? Imagine I want to run 10% on secondary injectors when cruising maybe a bit more on higher rpms and when on WOT I want to max out my DI(controled by max angel) and than start raising the secondary. I know if not using split tables and just setting up angel limit this will happen however i need to run some amount of secondary to keep intake valves clean. Question is when DI max angle will be reached but secondary min opening time will not, what will happen will the ecu? will it raise usage of secondary ?
stevieturbo
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

Post by stevieturbo »

Little bit of language barrier I think ?

If you want to use secondary port injectors, just use the blend table as and when you want them to be used.

As far as I know, there is no automatic transfer once one set of injectors is maxed out. It is entirely up to the tuner to specify what injectors are used at any given time.

If you specify 100% DI injectors...that is all you will get.

If you specify 100% port injectors...that is all you will get. And anywhere in between.
taronsargsyan
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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I think both, language barer and I think faster than type.

you got the point, if thats the case then its unfortunate. Though this will do the job anyway, but that would be good if we could specify MIN secondary and let the engine raise secondary when Primary reaches the limit.

regards
stevieturbo
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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I may be wrong, but I do not believe you can do that.

But setting fixed points would be smoother overall and less variables going on.
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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Here you go.

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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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This was introduced in 1.684 so you'll need to be on that or later. Set the split maps all to 0 and set the DI time limit to something sane based on your previous logs. Between 5-6ms is probably pretty normal.
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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No, that is incorrect advice.
Its direct injection time limit, set that and it will run to that max and auto put in port injection as I showed in log.
There is no need to set an injector split table when using this method, again shown in log an cal screen shot, hope that helps.
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Please see my updated response. I was in a non-DI cal and thought the name was the same. Concept is the same just different name.
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Re: secondary injection on DI for MAX DI .

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thanks everyone. so im concluding for future readers

if the secondary injection pins are configured in pin assignment and the max direct injection time is setup we get secondary injection kicking in, but split need to be 0 all the way ?

what i dont like in this scenario is that your secondary is off off regular driving. problem with DI is that they built a lot of carbon on intake valve. though this can be addresses with having few diff calibrations.

thanks for the input guys.
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