EGT probes

Pin outs, sensor calibrations etc
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Re: EGT probes

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https://youtu.be/Izp4f7kC1Sg

^^^ O2 sensors or individual EGT probes which is better ?????
BOTH !*
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Re: EGT probes

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Nice work !
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Re: EGT probes

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stevieturbo wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:00 pmNice work !
Thanks mate,

Yes as in video I got to do another hopefully in less that 5 months I been between them as got so many examples done from all kinds of cars showing in particular the finer details of thermocouple use in balancing engines. I have approached it from many different angles too (trying to be objective about it), one of them was a car set up totally without them and using our system to set each cylinder to its knock limit and plug checks, then slap in some probes and see what they read (zero adjustments !). Others were the opposite just using the probes and everything else secondary. All of these are comprehensive in nature where the engines were then tore down and everything checked and measured as its honestly the only way to back it all up I feel anyway.

Irony is the more work you do the less time you have to give back and share, but will try where allows to do that so everyone can benefit from it.
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Re: EGT probes

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Here is one long term test car, into its second season of running (everything engine/turbo untouched on this one - testing durability!), will show on this some info as eluded to above, it logs everything map/tip, egt, compressor exit temps, moisture content in drivers underpants etc....

TRUE street set up, running street tires, no TIN CAN weight mods, Pump Petrol and donmega Squirting Technology

http://www.riceracing.com.au/rides/Mits ... Justin.htm
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Re: EGT probes

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I think this may be of interest to people?

So this car (Black EVOX) was set up originally old school way in some regards, cause owner did not have time to fit donmega egt probes last season, so I used conventional methods to to balance the engine, some exp good experience (v's shit repeated many times lol) and feedback from the owner who is super smart, no probes no worries, but its always nice to have them if you can.

Over off season down time fitted up a KT8 and a all cylinders with donmega probes as well as compressor exit temperature + turbine inlet pressure sensor. One interesting note which I wanted to provide here was what did the cylinders show with no tweaks? just run it on original calibration file, and that you can see on left was close, obviously the things that majorly influence this is when setting the performance of car and cylinder pressure limits things have to be set the way they are, and balancing the fuel mixture to achieve the above but as well have them account for other hardware specifics means the temps are what they are....... anyway in this case they were close.

The second part to this is showing the effects of turbine inlet pressure to 'egt' readings as you close the wastegates to deliver more boost the tip goes up, and you can see its effects on the egt, the graph on the right hopefully shows these effects and how all of this interacts together. Also the performance of the donmega probes is exceptional in terms of reading accuracy - response - durability (proven across many end users) you can depend on them to show you things you would have never seen before on other types on offer.

Anyway as promised here are the pictures:
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Re: EGT probes

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Here is the compressor exit temperature plot...........
ACT and CET same scale
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Re: EGT probes

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https://youtu.be/u5Nmvq5mGtU

Here is another example covering two topics:
  • water injection via Syvecs
  • donmega probes
9.8 sec @ 143mph

as driven on street with RE71 road tires, nothing taken out of it, shit track (has run 0.3 sec faster on real drag track not a converted air strip like above) and much faster acceleration and terminal speed, No excuses though ! it runs a 9 anywhere anytime, all thanks to syvecs squirting technology and some love from the donmega
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Re: EGT probes

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donmega EGT probes FTW, when you really want to know what is happening then all serious users go *DONMEGA* fast becoming the only EGT probe people chose to use.

https://www.riceracing.com.au/rides/Mit ... Justin.htm
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Re: EGT probes

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Do I understand correctly that you are injecting 4.113cm³/min fuel and 2.388cm³/min water?
That would be 58% WM (or even more if you calculate it in fuel mass). I Ihought that usually about 20% is the target?

Just trying to learn something...
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Re: EGT probes

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Absolutely everything is listed in the RR engineering sheet and in the matching logs of the record run, I encourage anyone to study it, copy it, do whatever you like with it, its all proven durable-fast-repeatable. I have shared more than anyone who has legitimate backed up performances, but out of respect to the owner I wont give a word for word break down since its his car/money/time put into it to show the way to others that this technology is far superior to any E85 set up that exists on this platform.

I have been doing this for over 30 years and proven it literally hundreds of times on every type of automotive engine in every field, many people are (who were the biggest haters) switching over cause they cant dispute the results. Keep in mind I am just shit cunt nobody in the arse end of the world, this was all done back in the 19th century by actual smart people and all we have been doing since is rediscovering what has been very well known for over 140 years !

The beauty today is the Syvecs, and a fully integrated implementation across the entire operation of the engine. I have personally been working on this (Syvecs) since 2017 and proved it on the arguably the fucking worst shit box of an engine known to humanity *THE TURBO WANKEL ROTARY*. I have many permutations of it described here so wont repeat over like a clown but I cover everything and most importantly have proven it, we (I and my supported customers) have many more but like these will go up here once proven and happy to share with you all.

If anyone wants some 1 on 1 love and some squirting action, then its easy to reach around to me and I will reciprocate !
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