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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:17 pm
by RICE RACING
Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:08 pm
by stevieturbo
Interesting chimney
Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:57 am
by RICE RACING
Indeed it is
As a repeat, I ran these exact sensors a quarter of a century ago, and they are still regarded as being #1 in serious applications. The interesting part to me is I still have all of the data logging overlays from testing way back then through my professional Race Logic VB3 gear which showed the NEKO AF700 being point for point identical to the Autronic lab grade meter (with actual lab NTK not the cheaper one they supply these days being the LZA11-V2) of which I have all of them to compare them against
summary is this:
Buy the LR sensor (open up your wallet and let the moths escape) use the supplied curve and its good between 0.8L and 1.0L
Any serious turbo applications running heavy excess fuel you will need to trim it as I have shown, and sensor to sensor if you are anal (most all my customers apparently love anal) then you should always calibrate each sensor, which is what is done anyway if you are fair dinkum.
Now the skews between sensors, let alone other 'brands of meters' if I posted this would disrupt the internet rather allot, but will save that knowledge for my many customers who purchase sensors and calibration services from me

Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:09 am
by RICE RACING
Here is better view just showing the said sensors (RR calibrated), I always recheck all sensors a following day as validation of calibration curves (bespoke to each sensor)
There is no difference if the supplied calibration curve is put into one of our Lambda to Can 8 channel units (in this log) or previously shown into any LR /Syvecs ECU, its been tested across multiple S8's-S12's-S7's-S6's for 10 years now, they are spot on

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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:38 am
by RICE RACING
Small selection of RR test NTK's
Literally hundreds of hours of testing, many more multiples of these hours out in field, across all applications you can imagine.
GET ON IT !
p.s. For the 100% meth addicts out there I have not forgot about you, is coming !

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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 am
by RICE RACING
METHANOL MAGIC is here!
The ONLY! meter that gives true numbers as proven by people who have run methanol drag race cars for decades
NO! guessed or inferred figures like shown on various competitors items that have been run on my test bench and proven to be wildly inconsistent and not matching with any reality
CUSTOM RR CALIBRATED NTK's ON THE SHELF READY TO GO! for use in any Sysvecs Life Racing ECU or Expander or Lambda to Can unit
GET ON IT!
These sensors are ideal for not only Methanol use but also are mandatory for TIP correction when using high excess fuel ratio and levels of manifold pressure........ reach around to me............ and I will accommodate you !
Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:46 pm
by RICE RACING
Here you go.
Shows how good the L2C really is, not to mention the Autronic EGA I call against, same cant be said for others which have run back to back.
One meter is specifically set up for methanol and unlike the pretenders this is an actual reading for mixture not an inferred one! thus has none of the stupid errors that don't add up to any reality when checking mass of air and fuel.
We guarantee this down to 0.500L and the final part is extrapolated in the L2C down to the sensor actual rich limit ability, if you have to run more than this then you are not going to ever have a true reading of mixture, let alone a functioning engine of any note.
Unlike the pretenders we run these engines and have proven them and tested all the market offerings (some claimed leaders) the disparities and claims to greatness and inference of 'setting the benchmark std to which all others are judged' is nothing more than a certified joke at best and outright lies at worst. I have even seen funny things where its obvious some brands have obviously copied the 'wrong' reference std point for point

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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:33 pm
by RICE RACING
This shows how small amounts of TIP skew actual mixture readings when run at this point on methanol race engines, again another reason why you want RR sensors and actual race experience applied and proven

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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:26 am
by RICE RACING
Here is but a simple example:
LSU AIDZ
NTK 'LEB GRADE' AIDZ
NTK 'KALIBRATION GRADE CLAIMED BEST MAKER ON EARTH' AIDZ
This is a common 'power setting' of ~0.85L where honestly any piece of shit meter should be able to work, keep in mind one of these is 'high dollar' Leb Grade NTK and claimed best unit on market as used by racers for racers bullshit advertising.
Also of note I have had many many times teams send me multiple such items (not picking on any brand in particular) and same unit same harness same sensor and the dog shit units cannot agree on a number, pick a number any number !
No wonder cunts blow up on a regular basis and many seasoned people say and I quote ' we don't trust the lambda readings'

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Re: NTK L2H2 New Linearisation
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:34 am
by RICE RACING
some more aidz

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